Once Upon a Time in the Vest

Monday, March 18, 2019

V9 N. 12 Two Great Photos from the Past

Tom Farrell, John Perry, and Dave Perry 1966

This picture came across our desk recently, thanks to John Perry,
the man in the middle, who also credits Darryl Taylor for sending it to him.  I had run against the Perrys when I was at the U. of Oklahoma.  In 1964 at the Albequerque Invitational indoors, along with Tom Von Ruden and James Metcalf,  they had a break through race on the boards and began dominating the event, eventually setting a world record outdoors.  I was struck by this photo showing the quality of a good cinder track.  No one appears to have put many marks on it yet that day.  The viewer can almost feel those long spikes digging in and holding and projecting the body along with a little bit of cinders kicking up and tickling the follower's  shin bones.   Where, when, what was the result?  Those questions formed in my aging brain.  John was able to answer some of those questions in a second email seen below. George Brose



"I just received a photo that I had never seen before and forwarded it to you OU guys. It was taken it 1967 at Mt Sac (I think). Most of the guys from the Big 8 were running for the 49er Track Club. However, a bunch of guys didn’t live in Los Angeles at that time. Some had new jobs or were finishing school. For example, Mickey Miller lived at Stillwater and Dave Crook lived in Lincoln. Mel Zahn, who ran the club at that time just used his home address or some other athlete’s address for the out of town guys. The AAU was a real stickler for the residence requirement which basically kept track runners who lived anywhere but California (Striders, Santa Monica Track Club and 49’ers),  New York, Houston or Chicago from joining a team and being able to compete." 


"Anyway, the AAU banned the 49’ers from competing as a team but we were still allowed to compete as individuals. At that time, the 49ers (name came from Long Beach State College 49’ers and the original runners were from Long Beach State) had become the dominant club in track and had just won the Indoor AAU where they used to keep team scores. Anyway, we ended up getting kicked out  Of the AAU and Mel Zahn got a lifetime ban for “cheating” on the residence requirements." 


"I don’t even remember this race but I think that MT Sac had to have prelims in some individual races because all of 49’er relay teams were scratched from the meet. I guess that explains why I’m wearing a USA Team uniform (from 1966 Finland Tour) and David’s wearing OSU even though he graduated in 1965." 


"When that photo was taken, David and I were still the two fastest “varsity” 880 runners in Big 8 history with both us us running 1:47.7 at OSU. Ryun was a freshman when he ran his 1:44.9 at the USTFF Meet. Then he ran 1:46 and change for an 800m later on in 1966 at Los Angeles."


"That track looks pretty good, I’m not even making a big hole but a few cinders are flying." 



I didn't find the beer drinking pic John refers to, but I did find this great shot of Gerry Lindgren that Darryl Taylor posted.  Number 109 is John Lawson of U. of Kansas who is one of our readers.  John was NCAA cross country champion in 1965 beating Doug Brown of Montana..  Can someone please identify the Santa Monica runner? 


First time posting..great site...I've been looking thru a couple of old 1965 T & F News that I got laying around and I couldn't find anybody on any list that was running for the SMTC at 5 and 10...looks like Greele on Lindgren's shoulder..and also a question..did Cary Weisiger really run a last 300 in 37 or so at the N.Y 1964 semi trials?..the T & F News issue covering the trials has 3.10.9 for Weisiger at 1200/1320 and finish at 3.46.7...35.8 if meters or 37.0 for yards? slow or fast race, that's moving...thanks...Felix Cabrera- Port Washington, N.Y..fan of the sport since seeing Tom O'Hara break the mile record in Chicago and saddened that he gave it up so soon.
March 18, 2019 at 12:48 PM
Blogger Unknown said...
The photos of the Perry brothers was taken on April 28-1967 during the 9th annual edition of the now venerable MT. SAC RELAYS. There were two heats of the 880 that day and the photo shows the top three finishers of the second heat in their finishing order. Having competed in the first heat, my running log notes that the wind was swirling and gusting throughout the day and T&F News reported gusts of up to 25mph during the running events. In the photo Tom Ferrell is coming off the turn and heading for the finish line where he won in 1:52.8 just ahead of John Perry's 1:53.0 and Dave Perry's 1:53.6. 4th place went to Darnell Mitchell in 1:54.9. In my heat Neville Myton won in 1:52.6 ahead of Dennis Brekow 1:53.0, My third place finish (Darryl Taylor) 1:53.3 and Dan Tague in 4th 1:53.8. This race marked my 9th competition at Mt. SAC, having run every year since the meet's inaugural 1959 opening while representing Excelsior HS, Cerritos College, Long Beach State and the now defunct 49er TC. Comments about the track were correct and when prepared properly the red, crushed brick 440 track was as good as they came back in the day!
March 18, 2019 at 3:46 PM
Blogger Unknown said...
I sent the photo of Gerry Lindgren to him on his 73rd birthday. This image was captured on January 21st in the old Los Angeles Sports Arena. Gerry led throughout this 2-mile competition and trailing closely are Jim Grelle, mostly hidden behind Gerry, Joe Lynch of the Santa Monica AA, and future PCC star John Lawson amd George Young not visible. Grelle kicked past Lindgren for the win in 8:45.0 to Gerry's 8:45.6 and Young's 8:45.8.
March 18, 2019 at 3:57 PM


4 comments:

Felix Cabrera said...

First time posting..great site...I've been looking thru a couple of old 1965 T & F News that I got laying around and I couldn't find anybody on any list that was running for the SMTC at 5 and 10...looks like Greele on Lindgren's shoulder..and also a question..did Cary Weisiger really run a last 300 in 37 or so at the N.Y 1964 semi trials?..the T & F News issue covering the trials has 3.10.9 for Weisiger at 1200/1320 and finish at 3.46.7...35.8 if meters or 37.0 for yards? slow or fast race, that's moving...thanks...Felix Cabrera- Port Washington, N.Y..fan of the sport since seeing Tom O'Hara break the mile record in Chicago and saddened that he gave it up so soon.

Darryl Taylor said...

The photos of the Perry brothers was taken on April 28-1967 during the 9th annual edition of the now venerable MT. SAC RELAYS. There were two heats of the 880 that day and the photo shows the top three finishers of the second heat in their finishing order. Having competed in the first heat, my running log notes that the wind was swirling and gusting throughout the day and T&F News reported gusts of up to 25mph during the running events. In the photo Tom Ferrell is coming off the turn and heading for the finish line where he won in 1:52.8 just ahead of John Perry's 1:53.0 and Dave Perry's 1:53.6. 4th place went to Darnell Mitchell in 1:54.9. In my heat Neville Myton won in 1:52.6 ahead of Dennis Brekow 1:53.0, My third place finish (Darryl Taylor) 1:53.3 and Dan Tague in 4th 1:53.8. This race marked my 9th competition at Mt. SAC, having run every year since the meet's inaugural 1959 opening while representing Excelsior HS, Cerritos College, Long Beach State and the now defunct 49er TC. Comments about the track were correct and when prepared properly the red, crushed brick 440 track was as good as they came back in the day!

Darryl Taylor said...

I sent the photo of Gerry Lindgren to him on his 73rd birthday. This image was captured on January 21st in the old Los Angeles Sports Arena. Gerry led throughout this 2-mile competition and trailing closely are Jim Grelle, mostly hidden behind Gerry, Joe Lynch of the Santa Monica AA, and future PCC star John Lawson amd George Young not visible. Grelle kicked past Lindgren for the win in 8:45.0 to Gerry's 8:45.6 and Young's 8:45.8.

Anonymous said...

JUNE 1966---TERRE HAUTE, IN --INDIANA STATE UNIV--USTFF NATL CHAMPIONSHIPS---I WAS AT THAT TRACK MEET AND JIM RYUN RAN A WORLD RECORD 880 YD RUN IN 1:44.0. WE ARE OF THE SAME AGE AND THAT RUN WAS SPECTULAR BECAUSE HE WON BY ALMOST 100 YARDS! OVER THE 4 YRS OF HIS AND MINE COMPETITIVE YEARS IN COLLEGE, I WAS ABLE TO SEE HIM SET SEVERAL WORLD AND US TRACK RECORDS. HE WAS TRULY A GREAT RUNNER.

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