Once Upon a Time in the Vest

Thursday, March 31, 2022

V 12 N. 25 Kirk Baptiste 1984 200 meters Silver R.I.P.

 



From Olympedia:

Full nameKirk Renaud•Baptiste
Used nameKirk•Baptiste
Born20 June 1962 in Beaumont, Texas (USA)
Died24 March 2022
Measurements184 cm / 79 kg
AffiliationsSanta Monica Track Club, Santa Monica (USA)
NOC United States

Biography

Kirk Baptiste had a short career, winning a silver medal in the 200 metres at the 1984 Los Angeles Olympics, after finishing behind Carl Lewis. Baptiste also won a gold medal in the 200 at the 1987 World Indoor Championships. He competed for the USA at the 1985 World Cup, placing fourth in the 100 and being disqualified for a lane violation in the 200.

Baptiste was US Champion in the 100 and 200 in 1985 and was third in the 200 in 1986. At the NCAA Meet Baptiste won the 200 metres in 1984 and 1985 while running for the University of Houston. He later developed HIV and had several years of difficult health issues before dying in 2022.

Personal Best: 200 – 19.96 (1984).


Here is a link to that Olympic 200     200 M Men Los Angeles 1984


Too many of the great ones too often these day’s.  Darryl Taylor


Tuesday, March 29, 2022

V 12 N. 24 Should We/Will We Run 'Til We Die?

 

A friend and colleague, Bill Blewett,  University of Oklahoma (1969)  was one of the best walk-ons ever at that school. He is in the process of writing a book on training and it's effects both good and bad.  He, along with many others of his day now realize that they may have pushed themselves too hard, not taking sufficient rest between hard days and thus ended their careers early with injuries, psychological burnout, and most destructively developing heart problems related to their physical activities as young and middle aged men.  Bill is sharing a chapter of his book in development which we feel is worth taking a look at and considering some of the ideas that he has proposed in relation to ourselves.  

The chapter is titled  "Fear of Death on the Run".   Reading this chapter and others that he has graciously shared have given me some cause to look at how long some of the top middle and distance runners in the world have fared in the longevity race.  I'm using Olympedia.org to find the age at death of anyone who ran in distance races in the Olympics.  I realize that for many it is too soon to start looking, because most of them are still alive.  But when I go back to 1952 and earlier, not many of them are still standing.  I will let you know my findings in a subsequent post.  But for now, enjoy this chapter by Bill Blewett.  But I warn you not to read it just before you go to bed.

Chapter 21: Fear of Death on the Run 

There is a memorial run held annually in Bel Air, Maryland, honoring Scott Dana Smith, a good friend of mine who was a well-known runner locally, a popular grade-school teacher, and a mentor to many runners. Scott was a marathoner. He had completed 34 marathons before he suffered a heart attack while running a 5-mile road race in March 2010. Two miles into the race, Scott suddenly felt breathless. In his 30 years of running, he had never failed to finish a race, but this sudden distress alarmed him so that he stopped running and walked to the finish. In the emergency room later, he learned that he had suffered a heart attack. A blood clot had lodged in blood vessel serving his heart, causing permanent damage to a portion of his heart muscle. In essence, the damage reduced the maximum pumping power his heart could produce. The loss was irreversible, and unless he moderated his running, he was a candidate for another, more serious heart attack. This seemed a most unlikely result of his many years of running, which began on the track team in high school. He had not missed a day of training in 12 years and was running an average of 50 to 60 miles per week. He felt in perfect condition when he began the 5-mile race, just a day after an 18-mile training run in preparation for running the Boston Marathon. Scott remained hospitalized for a week. His level of fitness and self-awareness saved him from a much worse outcome and helped him resume exercising after the two months of rehab his doctor prescribed. First, he began walking, then a month later he ran an easy 5K. Eight months after his heart attack, he completed a marathon, the first of 11 he would run after the heart attack. He also ran 19 half marathons. “I still race a lot, but I don’t do it as competitively,” he told me. “I don’t take things for granted like I used to.” Five years later, Scott had a second heart attack in his sleep the night after a routine training run. This one was fatal. He was 46. Scott was not my first friend to suffer heart failure on or after a run. Over the years, there were six other runners in Harford County whom I knew and wrote about in a weekly runners’ column for the county newspaper, The Aegis. Two years before Scott died, Dr. Tom Jordan finished a workout on the recreation trail in Bel Air, got into his car to leave and died. He too was a good friend. The chief of surgery at the local hospital, he once performed skin cancer surgery on my forearms. During the procedure, he and I conversed constantly about running and runners. He looked perfectly fit and healthy before his death at age 54. 

Rob March had decided to skip his workout the day he died. He wasn’t feeling well after running 13 miles the day before. Rob was a youthful, vigorous athlete who had logged more than 50,000 miles in 21 years of running. A year earlier, while wearing a heart monitor, he found that his heart rate would accelerate rapidly a few miles into the run. This induced him to undergo a treadmill stress test, and a month later catheterization to correct the cause of his irregular heartbeat. His doctors felt confident in the success of the procedure and placed no restrictions on his running. He died in his sleep at 43, the same age at which his father died. 

Bill Barnholth came home after a jogging workout, laid down on the couch to take a nap before supper and never woke up. He was 57. A former college linebacker and power lifter, he had slimmed down from 255 to 180 with running and dieting. For 15 years, he was a back-ofthe-pack participant in scores of running events, never winning an award but always finishing the race. In the months before he died, he lost 25 pounds by dieting and running 25 miles per week. 

Doug Anderson was a state champion runner when he was in high school. In the 15 years after high school, he gained a large amount of weight, topping out at almost 300 pounds before he made a remarkable comeback as a runner slimming down to 195 pounds. At age 37, he finished a mile race in 5 minutes, 15 seconds and died soon after crossing the finish line. He had recently undergone a routine physical examination. 

Paul Perkovich, the athletic director at C. Milton Wright High School in Bel Air, ran the first of his 15 marathons in 2003 in 5 1/2 hours then improved steadily to a personal best of 3:25:10 four years later. He ran the Boston Marathon three times, in 2010, ’11, and ‘12. The fastest time of the three, 3:41:49, came at age 47 in the brutal conditions of 2012 – a sunny day in which the temperature rose to 87 degrees. It was one of the hottest Boston Marathons on record. Six and a half years later, he was training for another marathon when he went for a routine run alone one September morning. He did not return. He was 53 years old. 

I lost another good friend, Dave Starnes, to a heart attack that happened after an easy walking workout. winning the North Carolina state championship in cross-country in 1962 and 1963 and in track in 1964. He developed into a record-setting middle-distance runner at the University of Maryland, twice winning the Atlantic Coast Conference Championship in the 2-mile run, setting a school record of 8:55. He also set the 3-mile run record of 13:50. He died at 73. He was always active, and when the knee replacement surgery ended his running, he turned to hiking, biking, and golfing. It is uncertain, but the artificial knees could have caused thrombosis that killed him. 

When I was in my sixties, I looked back on the deaths of these vigorous, seemingly healthy runners in our community and worried that I too might be a candidate for heart failure. It seemed an irrational fear, as I had no family history of heart disease and had passed recent physicals involving electrocardiogram testing of my heart. For years, I had felt fit and healthy in my training even though my pace had slowed considerably. But I realized that these seven runners who had died probably felt the same way. I began wearing a chest-strap heart monitor in my interval workouts on the treadmill. It gave me some assurance that my heart was responding as it should to these moderate-intensity workouts. 

But the more I learned about runners suffering heart failure, the less confident I became in the health of my heart. Accounts of some world-class runners’ heart failures worsened my fears. I had watched Peter Snell on television win three Olympic gold medals for New Zealand in 1960 and ’64. He set world records in the middle distances with a formidable kick and remained active after his international racing days ended. In 1988, at age 49, he ran a masters mile race in Madison Square Garden. He won the U.S. orienteering championship in the over-65 age group, and he competed in table-tennis events at the World Masters Games six years after he was diagnosed with dilated cardiomyopathy, a condition in which the heart’s left ventricle is enlarged and weakened by thinning walls, limiting the ability to pump blood efficiently. This led to his fatal heart attack at age 80. 

Ron Clarke was perhaps the greatest distance runner of all time. He, set 18 world records, 12 of them in one six-week tour of Europe in 1965. In the 1968 Olympics, held in the high altitude of Mexico City, he finished sixth in the 10,000 meters but collapsed unconscious from lack of oxygen. He sustained permanent heart damage in the race and eventually had a heart valve replaced. He died of kidney failure at age 78. 

Alberto Salazar was a three-time winner of the New York City Marathon. In 1982, he set American track records in the 5,000 and 10,000 meters and won the Boston Marathon in 2:08:51, beating Dick Beardsley by 2 seconds in what became known as the Duel in the Sun. It was a classic race in which temperatures climbed into the 70s. Salazar, severely dehydrated from failing to take water, collapsed at the finish and was given six liters of saline solution intravenously. The victory, however, is seen as the turning point of Salazar’s career in which he adhered to the more-is-better training regimen (running up to 200 miles per week). Fifteen years later, at age 48, he suffered a heart attack while coaching. His heart stopped for 14 minutes before he was miraculously revived (ref, his book 14 minutes) These tragic endings affirm that the heart is not infinitely durable, not even with the dividends of being constant and faithful to daily aerobic workouts. 

Long term immunity from heart disease does not accrue in proportion to running mileage, certainly not if the heart is abused in overtraining and over-racing. It can beat reliably for a century if cared for properly, or it can be damaged by exceeding its redline redefined by muscle damage and enunciated by pain, breathlessness, or collapse when the heart is stressed. I had dreamed of becoming like these world-class runners in performance, but I wondered: was my fate instead to suffer heart disease as they did? Was there hidden within me a flaw that would one day be fatal. Would it be a tiny clot that would break loose and lodge in a blood vessel serving the heart. Or would there be a gradual narrowing of an artery through atherosclerosis, a disease that afflicts almost every person without their knowledge, until the physics of fluid flow drastically alters the equation of blood supply -- a reduction of 50 percent in the open area (diameter) of the artery reduces the flow to one-sixteenth its original flow (1/2 to the fourth power) strangling a portion of the heart muscle to death when it’s called upon to support strenuous exercise. 

Such was Jim Fixx’s fate. He had lost a portion of heart muscle to heart attacks on the run and ignored the loss of power it caused, probably thinking that running would cure it. It was one factor that led to his fatal heart attack on what was to be a routine 10-mile run one summer afternoon in Vermont in 1984. When Dr. Kenneth Cooper learned of Fixx’s death, he felt compelled to explain it to the world. Fixx was the author of The Complete Book of Running, which sold over a million copies. As the title implied, Fixx knew all about running, its best practices, benefits, detriments, hazards and how to avoid them. He practiced what he taught in the book, though not completely. That became apparent after July 20, 1984. In his 50s, he routinely ran 10 miles a day, seven days a week, and on that date he went out to run his usual 10 miles on an 80-degree summer day. He turned around after only 2 miles due to some discomfort and ran slowly back toward his motel. He stopped after 4 miles then collapsed and died of a heart attack on the side of Highway 15. He was 52 years old. 

“Little did I realize the impact Jim’s death would have on my life and on joggers and runners all over the world,” wrote Dr. Cooper. (REF: Cooper, K.H., Running Without Fear, Transworld Publishers, London, 1986.) “The press, the media, Jim’s followers, non-exercisers, and the merely curious came to me or called from everywhere and they all asked the same question: “How could Jim Fixx die while jogging?” Cooper is the author of "Aerobics", and 18 other books which together have sold 30 million copies and been translated into 41 languages. A physician, he coined the term aerobics and established the hugely successful Aerobics Center in Dallas, Texas. He was a miler at the University of Oklahoma a few years before I ran there, and he has, as of age 90, logged over 38,000 miles of running. He arranged for an exhaustive investigation to be conducted by his friend William Proctor, an attorney, author, and former reporter. The product of his investigation was Running without Fear, a thoroughly researched, well-written book that should be a must-read for coaches and runners of any age. 

Here are some of the findings about Jim Fixx. His autopsy showed he had extensive blockage of three vessels of his two coronary arteries resulting from the buildup of fatty substances. He had suffered at least three mild “silent” heart attacks, as evidenced by scar tissue on the heart. One occurred two weeks before his death, another 4 weeks before, and another 8 weeks before. He had been a heavy smoker for years before he started running. Smoking can lead to heart attacks by interfering with the blood supply to the heart. His lifestyle before he began running was sedentary, and he became as much as 60 pounds overweight before he slimmed down to about 170, his weight at the time of his death. His family history was ominous. His father had suffered a massive heart attack at age 36. His heart was abnormally large, and probably had been so since childhood. He did not undergo regular, comprehensive medical exams and had never submitted to a maximal stress test. Four years before his death, he had a medical exam in which the electrocardiogram showed significant abnormalities, which were never followed up on. He had been under a great deal of stress for years. He had experienced angina chest pain in the previous month. Running Without Fear was published in 1986. Though I was well aware of Jim Fixx’s death when he died, I did not read the book until three decades later, when I was looking for assurance about my own heart’s durability. One very important finding described in the book is that Fixx likely did not cool down at the end of his fatal run. He simply stopped his run abruptly. This may seem trivial to experienced runners, who usually delay their cooldown or don’t run one at all, but cool down is extremely important. Done properly it might have allowed Fixx to run another day, although he would not have escaped his fate for long without medical intervention. “The basic, guiding principle is never stop exercising suddenly,” wrote Dr. Cooper. “Don’t stand still. Don’t sit. Don’t stand motionless while taking your pulse. Keep moving, keep moving, keep moving!” How does failure to cooldown adversely affect the heart? When a runner finishes a race, workout, or strenuous repetition, both the heart rate and blood pressure are very high. They remain high for several minutes, but in stopping, standing still, or sitting down, the muscle pumps in the legs, which are auxiliary pumps for the heart, stop pumping blood upward to the heart. 

As described in Chapter 20, with inactive muscle pumps, the blood settles in the veins of the lower legs and feet, forced downward not only by gravity but also by the blood pressure and velocity produced by the pounding heart. The one-way valves in the veins of the legs that comprise the muscle pumps cannot stop the downward flow through the arteries, and the very flexible walls of the veins expand to accept the fast-flowing blood. No longer flowing back to the heart, a substantial amount of blood collects in the veins of the lower legs and feet and is taken out of circulation. This reduces the flow of oxygen-rich blood to the muscles of the heart, and to the brain. Failure to cool down is thus the trigger for heart failure. After long and/or intense runs on warm days, it can become a hair trigger, as blood volume can be reduced not only by evaporative losses through perspiration and respiration but also by redirecting some blood flow to the skin for cooling. And if there is partial blockage in a blood vessel of the heart, even if it is causing only minor symptoms, the sum of the decrements in blood flow can reach the point of heart failure. I checked out my own trigger mechanism during an interval workout on the track one day using my chest-strap heart-rate monitor. After eight repetitions of a 100-meter fast run followed by 100-meter walk, I stopped abruptly and watched my heart rate drop. In the walking rest interval, my pulse had dropped from 160 to 120 in about 2 minutes, but when I stopped abruptly after the last rep, it dropped quickly past 100, then past 90, 80, 70, 60, and 50 at rather frightening rate and bottomed out at 40 before I began to walk to bring it back up. It was unnerving. I was seeing how the trigger works, but without the heart defect that would complete a fatal combination. I visited a cardiologist for the first time in 20 years, and submitted to a full series of tests on my heart. 

The testing was not confidence-building, however. The doctor did not understand, though I told him, that I was a long-time runner, and I wanted specifically to know that if after 50 years of interval training I should continue interval training. I wanted to know If my heart was enlarged and if so was there a commensurate increase in its wall thickness. I told him what concerned me was still experiencing skipped beats, the same type I first noticed 55 years earlier. I said I could feel my heart stretching in my chest after arising in the morning or after going upstairs in the morning. Was it supposed to stretch so noticeably? I don’t remember this happening when I was younger. He seemed not to consider any of this information I presented to him. I believe that it didn’t matter to him that I was a long-time runner. He viewed me only as any 74-year-old male. Consequently, he prescribed the stress test not as maximal, contrary to what Dr. Cooper recommended in his book. It was sub-maximal, apparently for safety reasons, and consequently less stressful than my routine interval workouts. It was a nuclear stress test, however, and it did show that there was no blockage of the blood vessels of the heart. That gave me a little confidence. What did more to build my confidence in my heart was reading Dr. Cooper’s Running Without Fear. It provided powerful lessons that all runners and coaches should read. 


Dear George:

For those who think running is a panacea that will let them live forever this article may be a wake-up call.  All of us who run are acutely aware when we hear of fellow runners dying in or after a race or during a workout.  I'm sure most, if not all, know just such a person.

The article speaks of death.............but not of quality of life.  Whether yours is long or short quite probably depends most on who you chose as your parents and their genes.

What matters is not  how long you live........but how you live.  How often did you get to experience running all out in a race?  How often did you spend time running with companions, talking, laughing, telling stories and feeling alive as the pack runs down a street or along a path?  How often have you shed stress or unhappiness as your body adjusted to the pace and you felt alive and in command once again.

I'm 88 and much of my current running is around ten p.m. in the corridors of a retirement community.  But, when weather permits, there is a woods trail with small hills, clean fresh air and Lord knows how many tiny animals and birds wondering who that bigger animal is walking or running by them.  Will I die there some day while on a workout?  Could be!

There are worse ways for your soul to leave this earth.

Stay well and

Take care,

Tom Coyne

I thought that I would respond you your issue and an excellent article on heart attacks.

4 days after my 60th birthday, I went out for a morning run.  It started downhill so I was comfortable for the first mile.  As I turned to return uphill, I had a sudden shortness of breath.  Much more than in normal running.  I walked home.   No other symptoms, but something felt wrong.  I spent the day denying that I was having a cardiovascular event.   By 9 pm I was in an ambulance and was helicoptered to Westchester Medical Hospital, in New York where the blockage was removed and a stent placed.   I had the same experience defined in your article and after 12 weeks of rehab, I was able to start jogging and in 8 months could run/walk 5 miles. I have not tried to run a lot nor race, but I do treadmill run/walk 3 times a week at the YMCA.  I just saw my doctor today for semi annual check up and the numbers are good.   I think I am careful and pay attention to my body, and continue to try to improve my fitness.  Along with the treadmill, I have a weight training circuli that I follow for strength work.   

As we age it is tough to accept the limits that your body gives you, but pay close attention to your body.   I never wear a headset or listen to anything on my exercise days as I want to stay totally concentrating on myself.

All the best.

Joe Rogers

PS:   On the 2nd morning in the hospital, I was still in the ICU.resting. When I woke up there were a considerable number of people walking in the hallway and on cell phones.  I thought it a bit unusual.   Bill Clinton was in the room next to me.   He didn't stay long as then moved him to Columbia Presbyterian in Manhattan for a by pass.


Joe, I'm glad things worked out for you.  No pun intendied.   I had a bout of Omicron 5 weeks ago.  That was after two vaccs and a booster.
While I had the Omicron I drove six hours and ended up with a blood clot in one leg.  I felt a buzzing in the thigh which did not seem right so I went to my gp who sent me for an ultra sound.  A week later had pains in my right chest area front and back.  Got a CT scan and more blood clots in my rt. lung.  Now on blood thinners again after two years when I had A Flutter.  That got fixed with an ablation.  So we never know but it pays to listen.  George.  


Thursday, March 24, 2022

V 12 N. 23 What the Hell is NIL?

 

NAME , IMAGE, LIKENESS  (NIL)

The National Collegiate Athletic Association (NCAA) interim policy, as of July 1, lets more than 480,000 athletes monetize their name, image, and likeness (NIL), marking a dramatic shift for college sports. Through brand partnerships, athletes can now turn their successes on the field into cash in their pockets.Sept 30, 2021   on GOOGLE

This may be the future or the downfall of college sports,  especially those that sell a lot of tickets and sign big television contracts.  The NCAA has now allowed that college athletes under their aegis can sign marketing contracts to promote themselves, their mothers and their little siblings just about anyway they choose.  I'm just waiting for the first one to appear on a gaming site offering odds on their  next home game with Texas, LSU. or MIT.  Thing is each state still has to pass a law allowing such shenanigans to go on in their sacred domains. But it also seems that if the state hasn't passed a law regulating such activity, the NCAA still says it's okay to do so as far as they are concerned.    Makes me wonder if an athlete's picture appears in a game program, can that athlete request a percentage of the program sales for that game?  There are probably many more questions of this nature, and as they occur, an army of suits with law degrees will be figuring out the answers.  Each time an athlete's name is mentioned during a tv game, should he or she not get a piece of the action?   If the athlete is sidelined by injury and that is mentioned on a sports show or during a game, or if he/she is suspended for misbehavior, does he/she still get rewarded for that mention?  It does affect the betting odds.   Recruiting will boil down to which states or colleges can demonstrate the best opportunities to make six figure salaries if you come to their institutions where everyone else is there basically to work four to six years,  graduate with degrees and hope to get a six figure salary somewhere down the pike.  Can a hunk or a babe who isn't going to get into too many games still profit by appearing on a calendar or in the equivalent of Playboy wearing all or part of their game uniform?   Remember when Playboy used to run spreads like,  The Girls of the Big Ten?  Those weren't athletes under NCAA rules, but they drew a lot of readership.   How bout the athletes whose greater than life sized images are displayed on the walls of campus athletic facilities?  Will they get a piece of the action 30 and 40 years after their last game for old Turdball U. ?   Forty years ago, boosters were the name of the game.  They could throw big money at athletes under the table.  Now it's all above board, just between the athlete, the NCAA, and the IRS.  The football players at Oklahoma U. in the early sixties used to have jobs at a construction project in Lake Tahoe, run by an Oklahoma booster.  They all came back to school in the Fall driving new cars.  Other schools had other schemes.  You are what you're worth.  Capitalism run amok?  The football players also got a number of tickets for home games which they could sell under the table to wealthy alums.  The track guys got to sell programs outside the stadium.

Let's Make a Deal ESPN     Link   Check out this article from ESPN on athletes already connecting with companies to promote themselves.  It's not only the top athletes in the biggest schools in the two biggest sports of football and basketball who are scoring points in the NIL.   It's the smart ones who are scoring dollars as well.

Example:  (from US News)  Carley Barjaktarovich, a shortstop on the softball team at Lehigh University in Pennsylvania, got in on the NIL action by signing a deal with the Lehigh Valley Iron Pigs, a local minor league baseball franchise. Barjaktarovich, who was already working within the organization, will make appearances and help with marketing, promotions and social media.

And from the NCAA  last June 30, 2021

NCAA college athletes will have the opportunity to benefit from their name, image and likeness beginning Thursday. Governance bodies in all three divisions today adopted a uniform interim policy suspending NCAA name, image and likeness rules for all incoming and current student-athletes in all sports.

"This is an important day for college athletes since they all are now able to take advantage of name, image and likeness opportunities," NCAA President Mark Emmert said. "With the variety of state laws adopted across the country, we will continue to work with Congress to develop a solution that will provide clarity on a national level. The current environment — both legal and legislative — prevents us from providing a more permanent solution and the level of detail student-athletes deserve."

The policy provides the following guidance to college athletes, recruits, their families and member schools:

  • Individuals can engage in NIL activities that are consistent with the law of the state where the school is located. Colleges and universities may be a resource for state law questions.
  • College athletes who attend a school in a state without an NIL law can engage in this type of activity without violating NCAA rules related to name, image and likeness.
  • Individuals can use a professional services provider for NIL activities.
  • Student-athletes should report NIL activities consistent with state law or school and conference requirements to their school.

"Today, NCAA members voted to allow college athletes to benefit from name, image and likeness opportunities, no matter where their school is located," said Division I Board of Directors chair Denise Trauth, president at Texas State. "With this interim solution in place, we will continue to work with Congress to adopt federal legislation to support student-athletes."

While opening name, image and likeness opportunities to student-athletes, the policy in all three divisions preserves the commitment to avoid pay-for-play and improper inducements tied to choosing to attend a particular school. Those rules remain in effect.

"The new policy preserves the fact college sports are not pay-for-play," said Division II Presidents Council chair Sandra Jordan, chancellor at the University of South Carolina Aiken. "It also reinforces key principles of fairness and integrity across the NCAA and maintains rules prohibiting improper recruiting inducements. It's important any new rules maintain these principles."

Division III Presidents Council chair Fayneese Miller, president at Hamline, said the Association will continue to work with Congress to develop a national law that will help colleges and universities, student-athletes and their families better navigate the name, image and likeness landscape.

"The new interim policy provides college athletes and their families some sense of clarity around name, image and likeness, but we are committed to doing more," Miller said. "We need to continue working with Congress for a more permanent solution."

The temporary policy will remain in place until federal legislation or new NCAA rules are adopted. With the NIL interim policy, schools and conferences may choose to adopt their own additional policies. 


The line is getting very fuzzy here between college sports and reality TV.  It could be very profitable for a  number of smart athletes and their agent to turn it into a farce.   I think this has come about because we've seen college sports become a big money operation with football and basketball coaches being the highest paid civil servants in almost all of the 50 states of the union and that money not seen as being shared down to the level of the athletes on the field.  Now just getting a college degree opportunity for wearing the old green and gold on Saturday is not enough.  The cream of each year's crop rarely finish college during their playing days before they've signed a pro contract.  Now maybe it may become more lucrative to stay in the 'amateur' ranks a bit longer.  Who knows where this will go?    Maybe some of those Honey Boo Boo's whose wealthy parents scammed them into universities above their academic qualifications because they faked an athletic resume will even be gaming the system.  George


I see the potential to ruin college sports.  I'm an 18 year old top 5 QB.  I sure as hell will see what is being offered by the backers of each college.  Hmm, $100 grand for my photo on the billboard of the local Chevy dealer, $5000 for an hour of autograph signing at the Baskin-Robbins, 10 grand for a speech at the Kiwanis luncheon.....The school that stands to clean up is USC with its ties to the movie industry.  The kid that transferred from Oklahoma (with his coach), Caleb Williams is supposed to be the next big thing.  Caleb, would you like to have lunch with LeBron James and discuss the movie you will be in at the end of the season?  How about season box seats for Dodgers games where you can discuss business and be guided by a multitude of billionaires between innings?, a contract to be the tv spokesman for Farmer's Insurance?, the opportunity to learn to write for the new tv series, Caleb's Life, in which you will star as soon as you go pro in two seasons?....Of course it goes without saying that if you are fourth man on the Sonoma State cross country team, your options may be fewer.  Roy 


Looking forward to your comments:

  Personally, I enjoyed college sports more as they have traditionally existed, centered around education and the love of the game.  It was simpler and allowed the student-athletes to actually be part of the student body.  With escalated money from gate receipts and TV, it eventually became apparent that everyone was benefitting from these college games except the ones who actually played.  That realization has brought us to where we are today.  It seems to me that the people who most strenuously object to the benefits of NIL are also the ones who have embraced capitalism at its purest level.  Isn't capitalism all about organizing bodies like the government getting out of the way and allowing the market to dictate its rewards?  This is what has happened with the NIL.  So where is the conflict?  Is it that some people should benefit from this lucrative market whereas others should not?  In many ways we went down that road as a country quite publicly in the days preceding 1865 and found that plan to be fabulous for a few and destructive for many.
   Universities have embraced the NIL because in theory their athletes will benefit but they will not have to pay.  Instead, it will be businesses or corporations who will use the athletes to advertise their product.  In theory the school, athlete, and businesses will benefit.  Everyone wins.  But is that truly the case?  Clearly not because the divide between the halves and half-nots will increase dramatically as we have already seen with rumors about huge payoffs promised during the recruiting process.  So is the solution NCAA overreach which would send us back to the good old days of amateurism?  It seems as if the toothpaste is already out of the tube.  The NIL issue is a work in progress and so is its close cousin, the Transfer Portal.  It all makes me want to see reruns of the Cincinnati Bearcats beating the Buckeyes in the NCAA basketball finals in 1961, 62.  Bill Schnier


Bill, all I can say is I coach Division 3 football, and help out at the track meets.   no scholarships.   the STUDENT/athletes are students first.     I have some acquaintances that coach D1 football.    I wouldn't coach that level for all the money in the world 

Mike   

It's beginning to look like a big portion of 'all the money in the world'  is linked to sport including DI football.  George

Back in the mid-60s, a colleague of mine at Western Michigan University made an observation about athletic scholarships that, given NIL, makes even more sense today.

He felt colleges and universities should just hire semi-pro football teams to represent them and entertain the alumni and fans.  Then, student athletes could concentrate on being students.

Take care,

Tom Coyne


Hell, you're just jealous, George.  If this had existed back in the day, you could have been rolling in dough, driving the Corvette to practice and dating hot, slutty women.  Put bitterness aside, old timer, and be happy for today's youngsters.  Roy                 Tri Delts weren't all slutty.  Geo.


Trevor Bassitt, ashland u. (Bluffton, OH hs) was going to go pro last summer, but at last minute (due to NIL) went back to school. won d2 hh & 400 indoor, won usa 400, and finished 2nd at world indoor indoor in45.05. still deciding about competing outdoors for Ashland U. or going pro.  Bruce Kritzler

Tuesday, March 22, 2022

V 12 N. 21 Charlie Greene March 2, 1945 - March 14, 2022 R.I.P.

 


Charlie Greene passed away March 14, 2022.   He was an incredibly talented sprinter from the University of Nebraska in the late 1960's.  I remember him as brash and outspoken but able to back up his words with outstanding performances.  He was not shy and would introduce himself in case you didn't know who he was.  "Hi, I'm Charlie Greene."  He wasn't tall and long limbed, but my God he had turnover.  Always wore sunglasses when competing, his 're-entry goggles'.  He kinked a muscle in the Olympic final of the 100 and still came in third (10.0) behind Jim Hines and Lennox Miller at Mexico City.  Then he went on to run lead off  on the 4x100 and earn the gold without disclosing his injury until years later.  He won the NCAA 100 three times and the 60 3 times.  At one time ran 9.1 for 100 yards.  Served in the US Army and retired as a Major.  He coached at West Point and eventually returned to Lincoln where he worked and volunteered with children and athletes at the University of Nebraska. 

Mexico City 100 Meters Final  link.   This is the complete 1968 Olympic film.  You can see the 100 meters at 18:25 on the film.  


From the Omaha World-Herald  March 14, 2022 by Evan Bland


Do your job. All the time.

Such was the challenge from Charlie Greene to anyone who would listen. He did it as a six-time national champion sprinter at Nebraska and when he became the first Husker to claim an Olympic gold medal in 1968. He lived it for nearly a quarter century in the ROTC, where he rose to the rank of major. He shared it with NU student-athletes for years as a volunteer in the athletic department’s Life Skills program.



Greene died Monday at age 76.

The former Husker's 100-yard dash time of 9.21 seconds at the 1967 NCAA championships remained the fastest electronic mark for the distance until Jamaica’s Asafa Powell clocked a 9.07 43 years later. Greene was on track to win gold at the ’68 Olympics the following year but pulled a hamstring at the 70-meter mark and took bronze with a 10.07.

Greene kept the injury to himself for years. A day after the disappointing finish, he pushed through discomfort and helped the U.S. 400 relay team to a gold-winning time of 38.24 seconds.

           
The Mexico City Final  Miller 2, Greene 3 , Hines 1


Below are Charlie Greene's three wins over Jim Hines.


                                              1967 AAU Meet
     

    “If you tell people you didn’t win because you got injured, it’s sour grapes," Greene told the Seattle Post-Intelligencer in 2008. “Everybody knew when we had to race. Everybody knew we had to do the best we could. That’s part of running if you can't keep your legs together. It’s tough luck.”



    The Arkansas native who grew up in Seattle performed in style, becoming the first prominent sprinter to wear sunglasses while competing. He came to Nebraska on a track scholarship in 1963 at his mother’s insistence; she wanted Greene to get away from racial tensions elsewhere in the country. He became a seven-time All-American in Lincoln and the first Husker to successfully defend an NCAA title with his six crowns — three indoor 60-yard events and three outdoor 100-yard events. Then-assistant football coach Tom Osborne approached him about considering trying another sport, though Greene politely declined.


    Greene took his disciplined approach to the Army soon after while serving in the branch’s equal opportunity and race relations program. He was also an executive for Special Olympics International in Washington, D.C., before later returning to Lincoln for six years in student affairs at Nebraska.

    The former sprinter often said that even after his speed had left him behind, he had much left to do.

    “Generals give orders," Greene told Huskers.com in 2015. “Colonels, majors and captains relay those orders to the sergeants, who operate the Army. Good soldiers mean everything, save their spouses, their children and God. That's how you win and how you become successful in life.”

    Greene in the late 2000s attracted Nebraska student-athletes across sports as a Life Skills volunteer. Running back Roy Helu was among many frequent visitors who stayed in touch even as Greene dealt with health complications.

    A reputation as a passionate Husker supporter followed him wherever he went. His answering machine used to have the message, “No one’s home, Go Big Red!” He regularly attended Nebraska sporting events and got to know many of the participants.

    “I’d come down and pick him up at Tabitha and take him to track meets,” said Denny Walker, a teammate of Greene’s at Nebraska from 1965-67, in a release from the athletic department. “He just loved it so much. We had talked about going to a football game this fall. He had the will to live and still wanted to go. If Nebraska lost a football game, he'd be thinking of a way they could do better and win. He was endless about Nebraska.”


         Charlie Greene winning a 60 yard race in Lincoln, NB 1966.  The U. of Oklahoma (OU) runner is Phil Aldridge.

    Greene is a hall of famer for USA Track and Field, U.S. Olympics and Nebraska Athletics as well as University of Nebraska Army ROTC. He and his wife, Linda — who was a Philadelphia Inquirer reporter he met on a blind date at the 1968 Games — have two grown daughters, Mercedes and Sybil.​


     I watched a lot of the 1968 Olympics on your video. Brought back lots of great memories although the memorable closing ceremonies were not there nor were the boos for Smith & Carlos.  Bill Schnier

    We were hosting Big 8(at Norman, Oklahoma) and the cinder track exceptionally dry and loose. Charlie complained in an interview about It being too dry.  That night and the next day it rained 6 inches and the meet was postponed till Sunday.     J.D. Martin , OU coach


    Walter Mizell

    Wed, Mar 23, 8:03 PM (10 hours ago)
    George, I read JD’s message about Charlie Greene.  I new he was fast but I didn’t know he could control the weather!

    from Roy Mason:  What is happening to the heroes of our youth?  As the years pass, there are fewer of them, right George?..... ....George?.......George?

    Friday, March 18, 2022

    V 12 N. 20 Newbury Park's 4x1 Mile Record

    From Richard Mach:

    If you haven't seen this.   Our narrator is another math nerd whose enthusiasm borders on hype.   WMU set the collegiate record of 16:50.4 at the Drake Relays in the spring of ‘61. 

                  Dale Story, Oregon St., John Bork, Western Mich, and Jerry McFadden, Mizzou

                                                          Drake Relays 1961

    With Bork’s leg of 4:07 blowing Oregon State’s NCAA X-C individual champion, Dale Story, that fall, away.  And now a high school team within but a few miles of John’s home in Camarillo bests that by at least 21 seconds.    And outdoor could they not go faster?

    The Newbury Park 4 x 1 Mile Race    Link

    They served notice last fall in a possibly national HS X-C meet with 1,2,3 and 5 with the same 4-some.  Assuming they’ve an archive.  Averaged just a tad over 4:07.   On one team. In high school.  And two sets of brothers as far as I can tell.   Could be burnout city once they get in college and become just one of the pack. 


     

    Comments from George Brose:

    Newbury Park Cross Country   Link     Here's the cross country race Richard Mach refers to.

    In this race, The Garmin Running Lane XC Championships in Alabama,  Newbury Park took 1,2, 3, 5 with their first runner in 14:02 a high school all time best for 5km XC and their fourth runner in 14:15, but also to be noted is that 65 runners broke 15 minutes in this race.

    What Makes Newbury Park So Special?

    Is it the coach, the milieu, the kids, or is it the damn shoes?  Probably a bit of each, but I don't really know what kind of shoes they are using.  As their coach Sean Brosnan says in an interview.  Every school has kids with potential to run this fast.  You just have to find them and convince them to come out for the team and dedicate themselves to excellence.  A lot of coaches have that philosophy, but not many can carry it out to the level that Sean Brosnan has. 

    Here are the splits of their four runners on that 4x1 Mile record

                                Aaron Sahlman 4:11.37

                                Leo Young        4:06.86

                                Lex Young        4:07.35

                                Colin Sahlman  4:03.74

    The narrator of the youtube video on that 4 x 1 Mile relay notes that their record of 16:29.31 is 3.23% below the previous record, a whopping 32 second improvement.  He notes that only a few breakthrough records are over 2%.  I never thought of records in those terms, and they don't sound like a huge improvement when you look at percentages, but 32 seconds looks like a hell of a lot.  

    Put that 3.23% into perspective with the 2% that using Nike Vapor Fly's and Dragon Fly's supposedly will give you and things (maybe) become a little more clear.  

    The Nike Dragon Fly Next 2% By You  is listed online for $190.  That's the spike.  A Zoom X Vapor Fly training shoe can go for $350.  So you can bring your team to fruition for a $2160 plus tax investment.  Of course you may go through a few pair of the trainers on the way to that big meet.  But like divorce, it's expensive because it is worth it.

      Hopefully one or two will thrive in the next stage of their careers.  None of these kids is as great for their time as Jim Ryun was in his day.  Ryun was way further ahead than any of these individuals.  But as a team, Newbury Park is as far ahead of the pack as Ryun was individually.  

    Still it would be a great story to follow on with as to where they go and what they do in life and running.  Sort of like  "The Boys in the Boat".   Wonder what the coach has to look forward to?  He appears to have a few more up and comers in the stable.   Will he go on to college coaching?  Some of these successful high school coaches are completely out of their element in university settings, others do very well.

    Here is an interview with Sean Brosnan Nov. 28, 2021 after the California State High School Championships.  If I were an A.D. looking for a distance coach, I think I would hire him.  

    Brosnan Interview     There are many other interviews with Coach Brosnan on youtube.

    Other sports at Newbury Park High School don't seem all that great.  Football went 3-7 including a loss to Calabasas 66-7 and the basketball team is a bit better at 9-8.  So those distance running results are atypical of the school teams.  


    Just being curious, I googled 'demographics, Newbury Park, CA" and came up with the following information.  


    According to the U.S. Census 2010, 76.81% of the population identify as White, 10.72% Asian-American, 1.88% African-American, 0.09% Native-American, and 6.78% claim 'other'. 19.18% of the people in Newbury Park claim Hispanic ethnicity or heritage.

    Here's more according to Wikipedia:

    Newbury Park is a populated place and town in Ventura County, California, United States. Most of it lies within the western Thousand Oaks city limits, while unincorporated areas include Casa Conejo and Ventu Park.   About 28,000 residents of Thousand Oaks reside in Newbury Park.[9] Newbury Park makes up around 40 percent of the total land area of Thousand Oaks.[10] Lying within the Conejo Valley in the northwestern part of the Greater Los Angeles Area, Newbury Park abuts the Santa Monica Mountains. It is approximately 35 miles (56 km) from Downtown Los Angeles and less than 7 mi (11 km) from the Los Angeles County border in Westlake Village. The closest coastal city is Malibu, 22 mi (35 km), which may be reached through winding roads or hiking trails crossing the Santa Monica Mountains. It makes up all of ZIP code 91320, and is within area code 805.    TMI?  Maybe.

    What do people living there do, how much do they earn, what do their homes cost?

    There are 44,968 residents in Newbury Park, with a median age of 42.3. Of this, 49.65% are males and 50.35% are females. US-born citizens make up 79.6% of the resident pool in Newbury Park, while non-US-born citizens account for 11.12%. Additionally, 9.28% of the population is represented by non-citizens.

    White-collar workers make up 88.14% of the working population in Newbury Park, while blue-collar employees account for 11.86%. There are also 3,207 entrepreneurs in Newbury Park (14.24% of the workforce); 15,396 workers employed in private companies (68.36%); and 2,611 people working in governmental institutions (11.59%).

    The average annual household income in Newbury Park is $150,240, while the median household income sits at $118,986 per year.

    In February 2022, the median listing home price in Newbury Park, CA was $950K, trending up 11.8% year-over-year. The median listing home price per square foot was $454. The median home sold price was $1M.

    Crime Statistics
    Crime is way below US average in all types of crime.   Don't need to run fast to be safe in Newbury Park.


                                                            Newbury Park on the western edge of Thousand Oaks, CA
    You can probably find a few other towns in the US, Italy, Morocco and Azerbaijan that fit this description if you are looking for a place to settle and raise your future distance star.  Or the west Kenyan Rift Valley area too, but I don't think you would find that median income anywhere in country.   Happy Trails.   George

    From Roy Mason:
    I did this research a month ago.  Income, real estate values, % college grads, etc.  Lots of places like this in So. Cal.  Yes, this guy lucked into finding two families of exceptionally genetically blessed offspring but his work can't be diminished by the number of kids.  If the Youngs and Sahlmans only had one kid each, there would have been two kids better than any two in any school ever.  As memory serves, his 6th best kid is a 9:10 32 guy.  Good on you, coach.

    Irresistible force meets immovable object test: Coach Brosnan comes to Ukiah High.

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